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DemonBob
Not really a feature request, but it is hard to find a skin that uses all the skinning apspects of DS. I suggest a seperate folder in the SDK zip that includes a defualt skin with all the files that are editable and skinible in it, that gets updated with each release. Seeing that most skins use the defualt weather icons and clocks, thier files are every where and its hard to complie a list of everything. I know that a skinning program is in the works wink.gif but I think that this would be a nice resource for us developers.
yyy
Build 69 will have a skin editor.I think that that is enough.There will be no need for explanations about skins.
antu^jamban
Skin Editor is good. It do the coding for u. If u code yourself even better smile.gif. I was very frustrating to find that DS have many problems with skin. Its sad to say that i dont like DS not be able to handle PNG images the right way.

Today was the frustrating moments. I created the controls skin for Media Panel using PNG. When I apply the skin, something weird just happen. The semi trans part (the button's shadow) become darker and darker until its totally black. To solve the problems, ive to change the PNG to BMP and make tiny adjustment to the BMP just to make sure the button look right.

The point is, DS should have a good and stable skinning engine to really support the Skin Editor. More skin parts of the DS can be added later and Skin Editor will sync with the change.

I wish DS have 2 layer image for DS scrollbars. one for background and one for arrow image.

Best of luck smile.gif
yyy
Yes,that's bad.I also had that problem with the shadow when I tried to make a skin.
Hope it will be fixed.
Prism
There is a SDK for skins - the Blue skin (DS default) is updated whenever a new release comes out.
marines
QUOTE (antu^jamban @ Jul 13 2004, 05:32 PM)
I was very frustrating to find that DS have many problems with skin. Its sad to say that i dont like DS not be able to handle PNG images the right way.
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The point is, DS should have a good and stable skinning engine to really support the Skin Editor.
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I wish DS have 2 layer image for DS scrollbars. one for background and one for arrow image.


AFAIK PNG format in DS is supported by standard WinAPI functions, so DS has very limited influence on how it will be displayed (AFAIK the same to all others bitmap formats)
especially if U try to stretch it or sth like this, then loss of quality is very probable - there is call to WinAPI function and traditional MS' technology WYSIWYNG (=What U See Is What U Never Get) tongue.gif

a propos scrollbars, currently background = skin item "background", but it is not big problem to separate it and create new item in next version of DS

so what are these "many problems with skin" except of course problem with PNG? cool.gif
antu^jamban
well most of it is about the PNG. other than that is the stretch margin. you cant set the margin like 0,0,0,0 and i did try this. what u will get is some black stretching effect around your image. the safest way is to set the margin 1,1,1,1. Other sofware that i make skin for it dont have this kind of problem.

the panel separator. currently the is no separate image for panel separator. skinner make separator in the image set for background. the problem with this, sometime the text/element in a panel overlap the separator making the skin look ugly. we need a separate image used for separator so this issue wont occur.

well that not as many as i mention before but still a problem.
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